Which campground on the lake do you prefer?

This past weekend we stayed at Ironwood with two children and we enjoyed the grounds. We have not been to the other three. We are now looking to go back without children for a mini get away and I would love opinions on which campground they would suggest??? Thanks for your help.

Advice for road trip weekend in Pittsburgh?

Hello fellow travelers! I am a 30 yr old male from NJ and a a few of my buddies and I are huge NY Mets fans and thought it might be fun to hop in the car in a few weeks and drive to Pittsburgh and watch them play there! We%26#39;ve never been to Pitt before and am looking forward to spending the weekend there. I really have no clue where to begin so I thought I would start as I usually do and collect some tips! What do you recommend for a group of guys to have fun for a weekend in Pitt? I am talking about sports bars, restaurants, specific neighborhoods we should focus on getting a hotel in, gentlemen%26#39;s clubs, etc etc basically anything you can think of! One of the most critical things is to pick a hotel (not too pricey) but in a good area, preferably not too far from places to hang out. And obviously we will be going to at least one of the ballgames too. Thanks so much in advance!!!

Advice for road trip weekend in Pittsburgh?

Other than the gentlemen%26#39;s club recommendations, a lot of your questions have been asked already, many times. If you scroll through the first 3 pages of entries, you will get some GREAT ideas.

For a weekend, I would personally make downtown the home base.

Advice for road trip weekend in Pittsburgh?

Choose a hotel downtown, then head to the south side for the bar scene. There is also a McFadden%26#39;s (club like atmosphere) and Jerome Bettis has a restaurant/bar right by PNC Park.

See if the DoubleTree downtown is running any deals.

They have a shuttle that will take you to many hot spots.

Check out the Station Square and Carson Street areas for nightlife. And there used to be a gentleman%26#39;s club up a few blocks from the Strip District (just a coincidence, not named for that act!).

Definitely stay downtown. We live 12 miles outside the city, but occasionally stay the night in town after a show or dinner. We use Priceline, click 4star only to reserve, as there are only four, four star hotels in the ';downtown'; section of Pittsburgh. You%26#39;ll get one of the better hotels for a good price. We%26#39;ve never paid more than $99 for a night at the Omni or Renaissance.

Have fun!

I would definitely send your group to Fatheads (Carson Street/South Side). 40+ beers on tap, good sandwiches and wings, sports. It can get swamped, though.

curly hair

Trip Report 7/23-7/26

Arrived in Philly and made the drive out to Gettysburg on Wednesday (longer than I thought it was going to be). Hotel wasn%26#39;t ready (Holiday Inn Battlefield) so headed to the AAA office in town to purchase discount tickets to Hershey. Didn%26#39;t have much time left our first day, but made a short visit to Adams County Winery. Nice little place, nice drive, good tastings (although they could be a bit larger on the size of the tastings). Ended up having dinner at the Dobbins House which was very very good.

Thursday was spent at Hershey Park. Great coasters. Place is a bit cramped and grew old of paying $3 a bottle for water, but that%26#39;s the price of visiting a theme park. Lines wern%26#39;t horribly bad for a Thursday; longest wait was over an hour on the new Farenheight and that was because the ride shut down for weather. Didn%26#39;t want to hassle with dinner (way too tired) so just ended up at Ruby Tuesdays.

Friday began with the horseback tour of the battlefield. Have to say I was a bit disappointed that the park services guide failed to show and we were stuck with a CD version of the tour. Weather was beautiful and ride was nice; very professional. Could have taken a different route back to make it a full circle instead of the exact way we went out. From there we had about 2 hours to kill in the visitor%26#39;s center. Wow. What an amazing place. Wish we had more time there but got a good once-over as we ';flew through';.

From there it went down hill: the scenic train ride. What a joke and an awful waste of time and money. My husband ordered the conductor%26#39;s lunch on-line in an effort to save time. Just a sandwich, chips, soda and bag of stale cookies for $7. Could have done better at the McD%26#39;s value meal board. But the ride. Wow. The conductor was lacking personality until he was done reading from his script at which time he came to each seat and started talking to us. The ';scenery'; was the back end of Gettysburg college, a short view of the battlefield, woods, and people%26#39;s back yards. And it too came back the exact way it went out therefore subjecting me to the same awesome scenery I just witnessed. Could not ever recommend that to anyone. I just went back and read the reviews; not sure why I missed those before we booked. In any case, nice chance to sit down a bit and relax.

From there we did the CD tour of the battlefield. CD was nicely done and the route perfectly laid out. Had to cut it a bit short as we were running out of time. Had a decent dinner and great beer (thanks for the suggestions) at Appalacian Brewing Company. From there it was the ghost tour of Seminary Ridge. Another waste of time and money. No, didn%26#39;t really expect to see a ghost (although it would have been nice) but we just walked by three buildings and the tour guide told of her mom%26#39;s ghost stories. Maybe her mom should have done the tour.

Saturday we packed up and headed back to Philly to fly home. The Holiday Inn was ok; location great, awful charges for everything. Ate breakfast at a nice little restaurant across the street. PA has some strange alcohol laws, like you can only buy a six-pack from certain restaurants? And there was only one guy in town who sold wine. Hmmm. Overall, liked the visit very much and learned tons about the battle and the war (sort of slept through history in school...) and glad we made the trip. Had enough time to try some more cheesesteaks in Philly (this time we did the Pat vs. Genos tastings) and had a beer at the City Tavern.

hotel recommendations

We (me, my husband and 4 kids ages2-8) are going to Hershey park and Dorney park the 8/18 thru 8/21. Where would you stay closer to Hershey or Dorney park? We would like to be in 1 room but are open to 2 connecting rooms.

hotel recommendations

I can recommend 3 good places but they are in Lancaster. First would be willow valley resort which has the great indoor waterpark and 3 pools. Alot of activities to keep kids busy. The resort itself would keep the kids busy. They also have suites available that are a very good size. Second choice would be bird-in-hand family inn, they have a great pool area, 2 indoor pools with a gigantic hot tub and right outside the indoor pools are the outdoor pool with graduated entry. mini golf onsite and a little petting farm. Third Fulton Steamboat which they have just renovated the rooms. They have a neat room with bunk beds for the kids and you can easily fit 2 kids per bed. The pool is much smaller but it would also be a neat place to bring the kids.

day cream

The coal car ride

Is this the ';SKY RIDE'; the one that had coal cars that transported you across the park...then you got off and re entered the ride to go back to the beginning of the park?I thought it was the coal cracker but others tell me that%26#39;s a roller coaster..

The coal car ride

The Coal Cracker is a log flume. The ride you%26#39;re referring to is called the Sky View, I believe. It%26#39;s a loop trip, though. You get off the ride at the place where you started.

The coal car ride

Many years ago the Sky View did take riders from the front of the park to the back. At that time the back was only about as far as the Superdooperlooper. It is now a loop ride.

There used to be two sky rides. One was the kind that you sit in and your legs dangle. that one did a loop. That one is still there. The other one was one way and it was like a closed in box car. One of the entrances for that was near the entrance to the park. That one is no longer there. The coal cracker is a log flume ride near the ampitheater.

Idlewild Park

I am looking for reviews of Idlewild Park. We will be visiting with 2 adults, a 19 year old, and 12 year old. Also, any recommendations on a good reasonably priced place to stay in the area? Any other attractions to see in the area?

Idlewild Park

bumping for replies

Idlewild Park

I am sorry that I didn%26#39;t see your message earlier, I hope you haven%26#39;t gone yet.......if not, I probably wouldn%26#39;t recommend Idlewild for your children, if they love big rides or roller coasters, they will be bored. There are some spinny rides and 2 Ok coasters. Idlewild is ideal for families with young children. Your children may like the water park. Let me know if you haven%26#39;t gone and I will try to help you with your trip

Lake Henry or Lake Ariel

Does anyone have information about either of these lakes?

programming

age to stay at hotel

Do you have to be 21 to stay at the hotel and not gamble?? I really need an answer to this very soon. Thanks.

Hotels Convenient to Riverlink Ferry?

Hi All,

I%26#39;m going to a concert this Saturday, 8/2, at the Susquehanna Bank Center (formerly the Tweeter Center). We plan on staying in Philly and taking the Riverlink Ferry over to Camden. Any suggestions on decent hotels within safe walking distance to the ferry? The concert starts around 2pm and ends around midnight, so we were hoping to find something close enough and safe enough to be able to walk both ways. Thanks in advance!!

Hotels Convenient to Riverlink Ferry?

I%26#39;m not sure of the exact distance, but the Hyatt Penns Landing has got to be pretty close. I think the Penns View inn is a short walk as well.

Hotels Convenient to Riverlink Ferry?

Also- Society Hill Sheraton, Omni, Holiday Inn 400 Arch.

Also Comfort Inn Downtown/Historic Area.

Bars Near Embassy Siutes?

I am staying at the Embassy Suites in City Center for a few days. My wife and I are looking for a few fun bars to visit in walking distance of the hotel. We love sports bars and pubs and we are also hoping that the subway to get to the ballpark is close to the hotel. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again

Scott

Bars Near Embassy Siutes?

The Public House is right around the corner from you hotel in Two Logan Square, near the corner of 18th and Cherry. http://www.publichousephilly.com/

You want to get the Broad St. line at 15th and Market which is about 7-9 block walk from your hotel, not far.

Bars Near Embassy Siutes?

The Public House is right around the corner from you hotel in Two Logan Square, near the corner of 18th and Cherry. http://www.publichousephilly.com/

You want to get the Broad St. line at 15th and Market which is about 7-9 block walk from your hotel, not far.

15th %26amp; Market is about 4 blocks from your hotel. Walk downstairs by the clothespin and follow the signs. There is actually a way to go underground most of the way, but you%26#39;d get lost down there.

Since you are staying at the Embassy Suites, if you have a chance, check out the ';video wall'; in the new Comcast Center located at 17th and Arch (tallest building in Philadelphia)

OK....Now i see which one you are staying at....Here are a few selections......not knowing your style/taste..

McGillin%26#39;s Olde Ale House

Fergie%26#39;s Pub

Nodding Head Brewery %26amp; Rstrnt

Tir Na Nog - Philadelphia

if you have questions....feel free to ask

Thank you everyone for the help. I will try to hit the suggested bars in the area (hope its a safe area) and see which ones have interesting bar shirts for sale (small collection). We may try to drive over to the Reading Terminal and the Italian Market during the day but bars at night. Going to take the train from hotel to see the Phillies on the other night. Thanks again and feel free to add more comments if you have them.

Scott

If you%26#39;re into sports bars, a place called ';Field House'; opened recently just across from Reading Terminal market. TV%26#39;s on the tables, lots of flat screens and I hear the food is good too.

In addition to owlyn%26#39;s directions to the ballpark (subway), follow the orange signs to the Broad Street Line, take it south to Pattison Ave / Sports Complex - it%26#39;s the last stop. Purchase your to/from tokens prior as it will be a bear after the game if you don%26#39;t.

I second Public House and Tir Na Nog, 2 great places close by. Although, if you get adventurous, you can walk down pretty much any block and find a bar :)

Don%26#39;t drive to the Reading Terminal market. It is within easy walking distance ( 4 or 5 blocks) of your hotel, parking on the street there is almost impossible, and the garages are VERY expensive.

You could even walk to The Italian Market (other visitors have done it) as long as the weather is nice and you are in decent shape. It%26#39;s about 1.5 miles from your hotel. Parking around there can be tough, especially on Saturdays.

And if you really want to see another side of philly...

Locust Bar.....10th and locust

Dirty Franks.....347 S 13th St

but do not miss McGillens....

McGillin鈥檚 Olde Ale House threw open its doors the year Lincoln was elected president. That鈥檚 shortly after the Liberty Bell cracked and long before ground was broken for Philadelphia City Hall. The beer taps have been flowing since 1860 -- making it the oldest continuously operating tavern in Philadelphia. It has outlasted Strawbridge鈥檚, the Civil War and even Prohibition.

day cream

Is it possible to tour Lancaster by foot?

I%26#39;m thinking of taking a day trip over to Lancaster from Philadelphia. I%26#39;m planning to take the Amtrak train to get there. My question is, is there a lot of stuff to do within walking distance of the station? Or am I out of luck?

Is it possible to tour Lancaster by foot?

There is quite a bit you can do on foot. As for the area by the train station, it%26#39;s a bit out of the way (the nearest %26#39;attraction%26#39; is Clipper Stadium) and it%26#39;s a congested traffic area.

Once you get into town you can pick up a bus

www.redrosetransit.com/pages/index.php?pID=5

I believe it%26#39;s the rt 3 bus but the #3 page isn%26#39;t loading for me at the moment, so can%26#39;t confirm. Ask for a transfer if you need to switch buses (save $).

You can get a day pass if you are planning on using the bus quite a bit for your day.

Outlet area is NOT walkable (except between outlet stores). Every year people try it, and are badly injured or killed crossing Lincoln Highway. Between the bus and trolley services, though, it is easy to get around.

Downtown is very pedestrian-friendly. Plenty to see %26amp; places to eat/drink.

Outskirts (Bird-in-Hand, farm stands, etc) are accessible by bus.

Is it possible to tour Lancaster by foot?

There%26#39;s plenty to do in downtown Lancaster on foot. It%26#39;s about a ten minute walk to the center of town from the train station (I%26#39;ve done it a few times, it%26#39;s a nice walk). Here%26#39;s a start:

http://www.cityoflancasterpa.com/lancastercity/cwp/browse.asp?a=675%26amp;bc=0%26amp;c=42767%26amp;lancastercityNav=|

There are also lots of great shops and restaurants within the city limits. I also see some walking tours during the day, led by people in period costumes.

If you%26#39;re mostly interested in touring Amish country...that can only be done by bus or car from the train station. Although, if you come on a Tues, Fri or Sat, there are a few Amish vendors at Central Market.

Have fun!

Also check this site for more info on downtown and its attractions:

http://www.downtownlancaster.com/

Awesome! Thank you so much for all the help. I didn%26#39;t realize Lancaster had a bus system, and the downtown website is providing just the info I was looking for. Thank you!

Penn's Landing Area

Anyone really familiar with this area? I found a 3.5 star hotel on Hotwire in that area for $109.

Seems like a decent price for that area. I like a bargain but not big on surprises! :)

Thanks for any insight.

Penn's Landing Area

That is likely the Sheraton Society Hill, a good hotel in an excellent location. I believe it is the only 3.5* hotel on Hotwire%26#39;s list in the Old City/Penn%26#39;s Landing area.

Penn's Landing Area

The only other one I could think it might be is the Hyatt (pretty sure thats a 4* tho) either that or the Sheraton is a good choice!

I booked a 3.5 star hotel in Penn%26#39;s Landing a week or so ago and it turned out to be the Sheraton Society Hill. My price was $93. I would guess yours is the Sheraton as well. We haven%26#39;t stayed there yet so I can%26#39;t tell you what it was like.

Aside from a few small independent B%26amp;Bs near Penn%26#39;s Landing, there are really only 3 brand-name hotels in that area.

Society Hill Sheraton and the Hyatt are nice. There%26#39;s a Comfort Inn at Penn%26#39;s Landing, too, that is definitely not a 3.5 star-- closer to a 2-star. Also, there%26#39;s a Holiday Inn on Arch St that%26#39;s close enough to get lumped in with Penn%26#39;s Landin although technically its in Old City. But HI would be okay, too.

Also, keep in mind that the star listings are not an industry standard. Each hotel chain uses its own ratings for their hotels. So, Marriott brand hotels (Courtyard, Residence Inn) are usually nicer than Choice brand hotels (Comfort Inn, Days Inn, etc.) even though they may all claim to be 3-star hotels.

Hopefully before you paid, Hotwire listed a few hotel names that are examples of its ';3.5 standard';.

btw: I%26#39;ve used Priceline several times and wss never disappointed.

There is also the Omni, but that is probably listed as a 4 star. As mentioned earlier, the 3.5 is likely the Sheraton Society Hill (it has always been so in the past)- an excellent choice. There%26#39;s really nothing bad in the area in any event.

com and interop

Looking for Pittsburgh Labor Day Getaway

Anyone know a good resort getaway from Pittsburgh for Labor Day weekend? Criteria:

- Driving distance from Pittsburgh

- Nice pool that is friendly enough for a 3-year-old

Thanks!

Looking for Pittsburgh Labor Day Getaway

I%26#39;ve never been there myself, but I%26#39;ve heard great things about Nemacolin Woodlands Resort. It is 70 miles south of Pittsburgh.

Here is the link for kids activities, which mentions their pool. You can get to the rest of the site from there.

http://www.nemacolin.com/childrensactivities

Looking for Pittsburgh Labor Day Getaway

Have you looked at Idlewild? If you like racing, Jennerstown is right there too.

I used to work at Nemacolin when in college. They have tons of activities, but it is very, very expensive...I%26#39;d say not worth it actually.

I don%26#39;t know anything about Greenbriar, but I know it is within driving distance from Pgh. and I%26#39;ve heard a lot about it being family-friendly.

Another option is Seven Springs. It is less expensive, they have fun activities (definately not as upscale as Nemacolin though if that%26#39;s what you%26#39;re looking for), and there are tons of things to do in the area (Ohiopyle, Fallingwater, Hidden Valley Resort, etc). It is only about an hour from the eastern side of Pgh. Here%26#39;s the website: www.7springs.com.

Let me know if you%26#39;re interested, I know a lot about this area.

We really love going to Deep Creek, MD. Its about 3 hours from PGH. I%26#39;m not sure about a pool, but there is plenty of public beaches on the lake.

Niagara Falls

Deep Creek Lake

You%26#39;ve got to try the Stonewall Resort. It%26#39;s a short drive from Pittsburgh and a beautiful property. My husband and I have stayed there several times. http://www.stonewallresort.com.

It%26#39;s perfect for a getaway weekend with your 3-year old. They have a nice indoor/outdoor pool and the scenery is just breathtaking.

How about Oglebay Park Lodge in Wheeling, WV. The lodge is very nice with a great indoor pool complete with waterfalls. They have cottages to rent, too. Also on the grounds are beautiful gardens, a terrific zoo with wild and domestic animals, a great playground, discovery zone, glass museum, golf course, fishing lake, etc. You can get more information at Oglebay-resort.com.

You have to try Stonewall Resort, in Ronoke WV! A short 2 hr. drive from Pgh. straight down I-79. It%26#39;s beautiful and so down-to-earth. Not snobby like some resorts. My husband and I go every year for our Anniversary in Jan. and in addition this year took our 3 kids for a Mother%26#39;s Day weekend. The pool is awesome. They have a ';kids camp'; type of activities. But even without that, there are hiking trails (easy ones around the lake for a three year old). It%26#39;s on Lake Stonewall Jackson and there is a free sunset cruise around the lake and free boat usage. The food in the resturant, Stillwaters, is fabulous as is the food is the lounge! You should check it out! Also an Arnie Palmer golf course and cabins or houseboat rentals! Oh did I forget the spa?!...Awesome! Everything you could want and so close!

Planning a quick trip to Philly

My family (husband and 2 boys - 9 and 11) will be in town early afternoon on Sunday and leave late morning on Tuesday. We are staying at the Courtyard Marriott on Juniper and are looking to focus on the historic area this trip. I thought we would start our visit at the Independence Visitor Center on Sunday afternoon but I was wondering how much time we should allow for each attraction we%26#39;d like to visit. Our list of attractions include Independence Hall, Liberty Bell, Franklin Square, Betsy Ross House, National Constitution Ctr, Franklin Court and the US Mint. I%26#39;m also wondering if the hotel is walking distance to the historical area. If not, I thought we would use the Phlash. Can anyone tell me where we would pick that up?

If you have any family-friendly,economical restaurant recommendations, I would appreciate those too.

Thanks for the help! The information on this forum has been great!

Planning a quick trip to Philly

The Visitors%26#39; Center is only 8 blocks from your hotel, so it is walkable. If you wish to take the Phlash, there is a stop right by your hotel at Juniper and Market, but it will be going westward toward the Art Museum at that point. To catch it going east toward Independence Park, the closest stop will be at Chestnut and Broad.

Planning a quick trip to Philly

For breakfast/lunch near your hotel Reading Terminal Market would be relatively inexpensive http://www.readingterminalmarket.org/

Also, consider Chinatown for family friendly dining. Everyone has their own favorites. I like Vietnam and Sang Kee Peking Duck...but sometimes it is fun just to walk around and make your choice on the spot

http://www.eatatvietnam.com/welcome.cfm

http://www.phillychinatown.com/sangkee.htm

Pietro%26#39;s is a good place for pizza (and they have other Italian dishes)in a fun atmosphere. Walk west on Walnut St about 3 1/2 blocks from Broad. Afterwards walk another couple of blocks to Rittenhouse Square for people-watching.

http://www.pietrospizza.com/

Eight blocks from the hotel to the Visitor%26#39;s Center is ';walkable'; on a Sunday afternoon, but I doubt that you%26#39;ll want to do it more than once. There are several SEPTA bus routes that stop in front of Macy%26#39;s and go straight down Market St. The bus stop at Macy%26#39;s is closer to the Courtyard than the eastbound Philly Phlash stop, and you%26#39;ll have more bus options to ride.

From your list, I think you%26#39;ll probably spend the most time (maybe 90 minutes) at the National Constitution Center-- a great place!! The other places will vary, depending on crowds and your personal interest. I%26#39;ve heard mixed reviews about the U.S. Mint-- limited access, and not very tourist-friendly.

I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VISIT the National Liberty Museum at 321 Chestnut St. It%26#39;s one of the most poignant and interesting exhibits I%26#39;ve seen in Philly or elsewhere. Great place for your boys, too.

Although its not in the historic district, the Civil War Museum at 18th %26amp; Pine St. is a well-kept secret and a gold mine of historic war memorabilia. It%26#39;s an old 3-story brownstone house that does private tours, hosts school groups and features period actors. Call ahead and check their schedule.

regarding meals:

For breakfast: I think Courtyard offers a free continental breakfast. But if not, you can get food and snacks at the Reading Terminal Market. If you really want to budget, then buy some lunch meat and make cold-cut sandwiches for lunch later.

For lunch: There%26#39;s an indoor food court located in the Bourse Building at 5th %26amp; Market. And at 435 Chestnut St. there%26#39;s diner restaurant called ';Benny%26#39;s Place';. The menu is simple and definitely cheaper than most of the other nearby restaurants in that area.

For dinner: Try Moriarty%26#39;s at 11th %26amp; Walnut St-- great buffalo wings, and enough menu variety for the kids and very reasonably priced. Across the street from Moriarty%26#39;s is a Chinese restaurant called ';New Heaven';. There%26#39;s also ';Wendy%26#39;s'; and ';Subway'; fast food places on the same block.

';Maggiano%26#39;s'; at 12th %26amp; Filbert is closest to your hotel-- a great family style Italian restaurant, but not cheap. ';Chili%26#39;s';, ';Marathon Grill'; and ';The Hard Rock Cafe'; are very close to your hotel, too. And further up at 18th and Ben Franklin Parkway, there%26#39;s a ';Friday%26#39;s';-- next to the Embassy Suites Hotel.

Just did a three day trip in Philly after 50 years last week and loved it. The Phlash can be picked up right in the Independence Hall area which is where most of your venues are, as well as other places - see here: gophila.com/C/…1303.html.

Do need to tell you that they don%26#39;t allow cameras or cell phones in the U.S. Mint; they%26#39;re are a bit finicky about it and don%26#39;t have temporary storage facilities for them- I thought it was a great site, though. Independence Hall is free, but you need to get tickets at the visitor%26#39;s center. I bypassed the National Constitution Center because I thought the entrance fee was a little steep. I think Betsy Ross is something like $3 a throw and the others are free.

Many of the venues have at least minimal security screenings and/or metal detectors, so keep any large handbags at the hotel unless you don%26#39;t mind them being repeatedly them checked.

Thank you all for the great suggestions and advice. We really appreciate it and are looking forward to the trip even more.

Anything else to do in Grove city besides the outlets?

I am going to Grove City this weekend and also booked a hotel near there. Is there anything else to do besides going shopping to the outlets?

Should I have booked a hotel in Erie?

Anything else to do in Grove city besides the outlets?

The outlets are about the only thing to do in Grove City. They are placed pretty much in the middle of nowhere. Erie is about 2 hours from the outlets and there is much more to do there compared to Grove City. Pittsburgh is about 1 hour south of the Outlets and has a lot of things to do also. Let me know if you have any questions. I live about 2 minutes from the Outlets.

Anything else to do in Grove city besides the outlets?

Coming from Canada, I would have suggested getting a hotel in Erie - time considering. If you%26#39;re planning on a long weekend at least you could hit the beach for a day or something afterwards. There%26#39;s always a lively downtown scene and a casino/horse track now as well. Not to mention your typical mall and shopping centers.

If you%26#39;re just coming to shop for a day and head back, then there%26#39;s not much need. Driving from Erie to Philadelphia as I do quite often, Grove City is closer to 1:30 hours from downtown Erie.

Great, thanks for all the help!

BYOB Map with Liquor Store Locations

Reading Travelluv%26#39;s trip report I thought this might be useful to people. Its a map of Philly BYOBs that shows the location of state liquor stores where you can buy wine to go with your BYOB meal

http://www.gophila.com/BYOBMap/

BYOB Map with Liquor Store Locations

Now there%26#39;s a great example of usefiul sites on the internet! Thanks. I will now go and add it to my favorites :)

BYOB Map with Liquor Store Locations

Love that! Thanks for posting, great job rocknroll!

Suzanne

day cream

Hampton or Embassy - parking

I%26#39;m planning just one night in Philadelphia with my son (15) and nephew (16) and trying to get the best deal for a hotel and am taking parking into consideration. What%26#39;s the deal with parking? It sounds like no CC hotels include it, but is it cheaper at either the Hampton or Embassy Suites? I%26#39;m leaning towards Embassy Suites because heaven forbid anyone share a bed but I prefer Hampton%26#39;s in general - we could probably get a roll away. Are they done the construction at Embassy Suites?

Hampton or Embassy - parking

According to the hotel websites, Embassy Suites has valet parking at $34 per day (in and out privileges) the Hampton has valet for $23 and self park for $20 (self park ilkely does not include in and out privilege).

Another factor to consider is that Embassy Suites includes breakfast, not sure whether Hampton has a package that includes it.

As to your question on renovations, I would suggest calling the hotel directly.

What are you planning to see while in Philly as that might also influence your choice of hotel location?

Hampton or Embassy - parking

Thanks for your reply. I%26#39;m thinking mostly of doing the historical section - Independence Hall, Liberty Bell, Constitution Center, etc but also going to the Reading Terminal Market and perhaps a museum. Not planning to drive once we get in town. Hampton is offering an ';Al Capone package'; http://www.gophila.com/C/Places_to_Stay_(Hotels_in_Philadelphia)/314/Hotel_Packages/315/U/Al_Capone_Package_at_the_Hampton_Inn/2883.html which might be interesting to the boys.

The tour of Eastern State Penitentiary should be a great activity for your teen boys...note that tix are ordinarily $12 so you can factor in your savings.

Also the Hampton is closer to the historic sights that you want to visit. Be aware that there may be some construction going on in that area for the Convention Center expansion.

I see you found GoPhila. There%26#39;s the overnight package on there which includes 2 nights parking, usually on very good rates...

All else being equal, I%26#39;d go with the Hampton for location. Parking is a little cheaper and you can grab breakfast inexpensively at the Reading Terminal if the hotel doesn%26#39;t offer it (I am almost certain they offer the basic Hampton continental breakfast).

I saw the two night package, but am not interested. Nephew has flight home on Saturday. The only reason we%26#39;re thinking of spending the night is to avoid the drive home Friday night and then drive back down to the airport on Sat.

I am now considering taking the train in and just leaving the city late. I live in Lehigh county and it%26#39;s been suggested to drive to Fern Rock and catch a direct train into the city from there. Good idea? Is this a safe area to leave the car in if we come back around 11 pm?

No, Fern Rock is definitely NOT a safe place to leave your car, especially if you are returning at night. Very bad idea.

Fern Rock = very much bad idea. It%26#39;s not a nice place overnight.

At the hampton inn, you could park in the Parkway garage at 12th and filbert for around $18 per day, no in and out.

Okay, Fern Rock is out. We%26#39;re now talking about parking at Lansdale. I%26#39;m looking at the Septa map and it looks like we have to change trains, but husbands co-worker says we don%26#39;t. Do I get off at Market Street East? Is that the stop near the Reading Terminal Market?

No, you do not have to change trains (it is the R5), but I am not thrilled with the Lansadle station. It%26#39;s much, much better than Fern Rock, but not as good as Doylestown. I would do Doylestown if possible (also the R5).

Market East Station is right at Reasing Terminal Market. If you exit onto Filbert St. it%26#39;s immediately across the street. If you exit onto Market, it will be around the block, 12th and Filbert.

acne get worse

Center City East or West

I guess I waited too long to book the Hotwire 3.5 star hotel in Penn%26#39;s Landing. Y%26#39;all thought it was Sheraton.

I am not a map reader. Are either of these areas within easy walking distance to historical area?

We plan to visit 7-9 August. Many Thanks.

Center City East or West

Center City East is closer than Center City West. If you find yourself out of the range you feel comfortable walking there are good public transit options everywhere, like the Phlash tourist bus and regular SEPTA buses that will take you to the Historic Area in a matter of minutes.

Center City East or West

If it is the Sheraton, you will be just a few blocks from the sites. It is in an excellent location. That being said, nothing in town is beyond walking distance if the weather is good and can handle up to 2 miles.

Here%26#39;s what I see on Hotwire August 7-9 that you may be interested in:

4* hotel Center City East for $129/night - looks to be the Westin

3* hotel Center City East for $84/night - looks to be the Crowne Plaza

3.5* hotel Center City East for $106/night - looks to be the Club Quarters

3.5* hotel Olde Town (really Old City)/Penn%26#39;s Landing for $143/night - looks to be the Sheraton Society Hill -

Hope that information helps some. All are conveniently located in Philly, some moreso than others to the Historic District (the Sheraton Society Hill is the most central to the Historic District than the others.) That being said, I certainly wouldn%26#39;t discount the Westin for $129/night.

Good luck!

Suzanne

If you had one afternoon and evening in Pittsburgh?

Hi!

My wife and I are need a stop off point between Cedar Point and Washington and it looks like Pittsburgh is the ideal place.

I suspect we would arrive around 1pm.

What would you recommend doing for the rest of the day/evening? Can only have a couple of drinks as we%26#39;re driving in the morning, so not too late a night.

We are in out mid 30%26#39;s, enjoy good food and a good atmosphere.

Cheers!

If you had one afternoon and evening in Pittsburgh?

One thing I always recommend is a trip up the Incline and dinner on Mt. Washington. Gorgeous views of the stadiums, rivers and downtown. For a fine dining meal, try Tin Angel, Georgetown Inn or Monterey Bay. If you want equally good food that%26#39;s a little less costly (and IMO at a place with the absolute BEST views of the city) try Coal Hill Steahouse.

A walk around Station Square and the River Walk is always nice too - lots of places to stop and have a drink.

If you had one afternoon and evening in Pittsburgh?

Thanks Gypsy3n8 for the quick reply - sounds wonderful!!

I like the sound of the steakhouse!!

Cheers!!

Jon

One afternoon and evening? That would be a tough call. There are so many options: inclines, PNC Park, Carnegie Museums, Kennywood, the zoo...

I think the poster above hit on the best answer.

But, if you ever have the chance to spend more time in the area, Pittsburgh is a wonderful city with much to offer.

Thanks for your input WVParksfan!

Also, you might want to squeeze in an evening cruise on one of the Gateway Clipper Fleet.

To be the closest to all of these activities, try to book at the Sheraton Station Square. It%26#39;s not the best or fanciest hotel in the city, but it%26#39;s right in the heart of all of the previously suggested activities.

safety for a lone female

I have a possible job in Philadelphia which would require me to move there. As I am a 23 year old female alone I am a bit concerned about safety. How safe is Philadelphia for someone like me? Also as I know nothing about the city and have never been before, which areas are ideal places to live and are there any places you know of to look for house shares?

safety for a lone female

Where would the job itself be located. That would make a huge difference in my recommendations.

safety for a lone female

the job location is 5000 S. Broad St. is that quite central do you know?

5000 S. Broad?? The stadium complex in south Philly is in the 3600 block of S. Broad, do you mean 500? I am not sure if there is a 5000 S. Broad

That must be down at the Philadelphia Navy Yard. It is not central at all but in the southern area of Philly. However, it is served by public transit. Bus 71 connects the Broad St. subway line to the Navy Yard. Also Bus 17 goes from Center City to the Navy Yard. See the link below for info on public transit.

www.septa.org

I think the Navy Yard would be a nice enough location to work for a single girl but I don%26#39;t think it%26#39;s where you want to live. Unless you%26#39;re planning to have a car then you should find a place in Center City Philadelphia that is convenient to either Broad St. subway or bus #17

I stand corrected. There is a 5000 S. Broad St. It is down by the waterfront. The address lists urban outfitters. It is not central to town, but there may be bus service I will check Septa the regional transit company.

To my knowledge, S Broad does not run into the 5000s. That address would put you in the Philadelphia Naval Yard (no longer a navy yard, its a shipbuilding and commercial area).

If that sounds right, the Navy Yard itself is NOT central, it%26#39;s actually located on the river. That said, it%26#39;s a short distance to the sports complex and Subway transit into the city (about a 20 min ride). I think they might have a shuttle that operates between the station and the yard during normal business hours. There are places to eat, etc, in the complex. I%26#39;d have no concerns about safety during the day...

As far as lodging. The Navy Yard is conveniently located near South Philly, but that is NOT where I would recommend someone from out of country start as a residence. If your budget allows I would probably try to find something either in Center City itself (pricey) or near one of the universities (where housing may be affordable and people are closer to your own age - probably better chance of finding a share there as well. Once you are familiar with the city, you can find something a little more convinient.

In all honesty, your options will depend on what kind of a salary they will be offering you. If you don%26#39;t mind giving out that info (can PM me if you don%26#39;t want it public), I can really give you a better list of options.

I would also check with the company you might be working for, see if they offer any assistance in housing placement, some do for relocations.

I moved to Philly when I was 27 all by myself (no family, no friends). I lived in the city for a brief period of time, then moved to the suburbs. I now live in Ridley Park which is very safe, and it%26#39;s close to the city (about 15-20 minutes).

House sharing in the suburbs is really not very popular. I%26#39;ve seen a few houses here and there that have a sign reading ';apartment for rent'; but I%26#39;ve never looked into those so I have no idea how much they are. I chose an apt building instead. The units are really big, with central air and very, very safe.

Like the other poster said, let us know where you would be stationed and we can give you some ideas. And if you want, feel free to email me. Trust me, I know the feeling. Good luck!

Food tours, Philadelphia

Anyone have experience with doing a food tour in Philadelphia? I did one in NYC with friends and it was great. The same company offers one in Phil. but it doesn%26#39;t have the same glowing reviews. The Reading terminal market has something www.readingterminalmarket.org/events/tours/ Anyone try this?

Food tours, Philadelphia

I%26#39;ve done many, but only a few in Philly and not that one..

My personal favorites are Joe Poon%26#39;s Wok and Walk tours of Chinatown. Joe is a great guy, very funny and an excellent chef!

http://josephpoon.com/toursWokWalk.htm

I%26#39;ve gone to his tour twice and several of his classes.

One caveat, Chef is getting a little older, and I have heard occasionally he has to turn the tour over to his assistant. Still have yet to hear a bad review tho.

Food tours, Philadelphia

Thanks so much for your suggestion. My daughter is living in China right now and I have to confess to a fascination for all things Chinese. Not sure if my friends feel the same way so am open to any other ideas, but that one sounds great!

I should point out the food he cooks is great as well!

Some clips of Joe from various shows:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPNAcOvEjvk

One note: The restaurant featured in the clip is not around anymore. His landlord was a jerk...

Hershey Park or Dutch Wonderland??

I am planning a weekday trip in August and can not decide whether to go to Hershey Park or Dutch Wonderland. I have 2 kids, ages 5 and 2 1/2. I have heard wonderful things about both parks but not sure which one would best suit us. Also, any hotel recommndations would be great! THANKS SO MUCH!! : )

Hershey Park or Dutch Wonderland??

I would say Dutch Wonderland as its more geared toward the younger kids.

I can recommend 3 good places which we have been to repeatedly over the years. I have 3 kids ages 4 6 and 16. First would be willow valley resort which has the great indoor waterpark and 3 pools. Alot of activities to keep kids busy. The resort itself would keep the kids busy. They also have suites available that are a very good size. Second choice would be bird-in-hand family inn, they have a great pool area also, its a bit cheaper than willow valley but you get alot for your money (its like a mini resort without the resort prices) they have 2 indoor pools with a gigantic hot tub and right outside the indoor pools are the outdoor pool with graduated entry so its fun for the kids going from pool to pool, its very nice in summer with the outdoor pool also. mini golf onsite and a little petting farm. Third Fulton Steamboat which they have just renovated the rooms. They have a neat room with bunk beds for the kids and you can easily fit 2 kids per bed. The pool is much smaller but it would also be a neat place to bring the kids. If you are looking for a good pool scene the first two would be great.

Hershey Park or Dutch Wonderland??

I also would vote for Dutch Wonderland...your kids are not too young for Hershey Park but most of the rides are geared towards an older group and it would not be cost-effective. They would certainly get their (your) money%26#39;s worth at DW.

Dutch Wonderland, definitely. I just took my 4-year-old daughter yesterday and she had a blast. We took my 12-year-old niece with us, and though she is well over the target age for DW, she had a great time too, especially in the lagoon, on the coaster, etc.

Do you like amusement parks? If so, as an adult, I think you may like Hershey better...bigger and more theme to it. They do have lots of kiddie rides for your age group and other more thrill rides for adults. I love to walk around theme parks so I would prefer Hershey.

I am sure your little ones would love either of the parks...I just think adults might prefer the size and atmosphere of Hershey.

If you plan to do other things such as train museum and/or children%26#39;s museum, etc, than maybe the lancaster area and dutch wonderland would be more convenient.

Having been to both, I just couldn%26#39;t suggest DW over Hershey based on theme park alone.

day cream

get over a cheating husband

Camden to City Center via Transit

My son and I will be arriving in Philadelphia next week. We are taking the Northeast Regional (Amtrak) to Trenton, where we will transfer to the River Line (light rail) into Camden (Rand Transportation Center). We are conducting an observational field study of the River Line as a part of mixing business with pleasure - else we%26#39;d just take Amtrak all the way to the 30th St Station.

My question is this...how best do we travel between the Rand Station and City Center (we are staying at the Embassy Suites CC)? I saw a reference to PATCO. Can this be accessed at the Rand Station, or elsewhere. Or, how much time/cost would be involved in taking a taxi? I%26#39;d consider a transfer from the River Line to another adjacent rail service, but would rather take a cab than a bus transfer. Thanks in advance.

Camden to City Center via Transit

You can take PATCO to 15th and Locust but this is still quite a few blocks from Embassy Suites ...if you have luggage this could be a tiring walk....it might make sense to take PATCO to 8th and Market and from there flag a cab to your hotel

Camden to City Center via Transit

Easier to spot a cab there?

What about a cab from Camden?

If I may suggest a slight change in plans for your own safety. Camden is the kind of place that you want to get out of as quickly as possible, and you certainly don%26#39;t want to labored by luggage. Forget cabs from Camden. You don%26#39;t want to be on the street hailing any- if there are any. Trenton is a slight bit better. You do not want to appear vuknerable in either city.

I rode the River Line from Camden to Trenton (long story- SEPTA Regional rail was completely shut down, and this connection was my Plan B). It is definitely worth checking out. The cars are well thought out for commuters. Certain seats even fold up to expose hooks from which to hang bikes. There are no wires or third rails- it runs on battery power. There are certain areas where it goes single-track, and the schedule is set to allow for the most efficient timing of n/b and s/b trains.

Anyway... my suggestion is that you take AMTRAK all the way to 30th Street Station, and take a cab to your hotel. After you are settled in, and assuming you have about 3-4 hours of daylight left, you can take PATCO from 15th %26amp; Locust to the Rand Transportation Center in Camden, where you can change to the northbound RiverLine. You can return either on the RiverLine, or walk across to the recently renovated Trento train station and catch a SEPTA R7 train, which travels on the same tracks as the AMTRAK train you just took (but makes all the local stops, and many of the stations are interesting).

A few notes: Although there are change machines in the PATCO stations, they are notoriously finicky. Your bills have to be brand new and crisp. I suggest bringing enough small bills and change to ensure that you can buy a ticket from the ticket machine without having to use the change machines. The really tricky part is the RiverLine fare purchase. They don%26#39;t make it easy. The machines run off of a touch screen, and you have to study it carefully to figure out what you want. Once you get your ticket, you then need to locate the brilliantly camouflaged ticket validation machine (whoever designed them should work for The Pentagon). Ask another rider for help. Do NOT board the RiverLine without a VALIDATED ticket. The odds are that you will never be asked to show it, but if a fare officer boards your train, you better have one, or it%26#39;s off to jail.

Oddly, the trip takes roughly the same hour on the RiverLine as it does on the SEPTA R7 from Trenton back to Philadelphia.

Glad to answer more questions about this if you have any.

I very much appreciate your suggestions and concerns. We were trying to incorporate the business part in our travel to Philly as we are unwilling to give up those 3-4 hours you speak of as an alternative. The other alternative is to hire someone to ride the River Line, and take pictures and video to be submitted ot me! ;)

As it is, if we can catch the PATCO across the platform from the River Line (as I%26#39;ve heard we can), we will just take a cab from PATCO to the hotel.

At Trenton, turn left when you exit the train station through the main entrance (Raoul Wallenberg Blvd) and turn left. The RiverLine station is directly across the street. When you get to Camden, you will need to follow the signs and go downstairs to the PATCO line, which runs underground at that point. try to sit at the fron of the train, and defintely on the left side so you get a good view of the city as you cross the Ben Franklin Bridge. You can catch a cab the easiest at 15th %26amp; Locust.

I am very much obliged for this info. Some others from our firm have previously ridden on the the River Line and we are currently working to develop a possibly similar system in an area along the California coast.

Yes, the diesel/electric vehicles used on that line are fairly cutting edge, especially in the United States. Among the smoothest and quietest around as I understand. The huge attraction, of course, NO overhead wires or catenaries!

I thought it might be slightly more likely to catch a cab at 8th and Market, but if you go to 15th Street that is probably fine too. You can always walk down to Broad st (what would be 14th St) where there should be plenty

I do the Patco run to the city all the time and hail a cab at 15th and locust if it is raining, rarely have to wait for more than 5-10 mins before one comes along.

They are not particularly quiet. Some have even complained about the noise, but I think it depends on the train car. The one I was on wasn%26#39;t bad. The SEPTA ';heavy'; rail cars are much quieter, and they are 40+ years old. Smooth is a function of the (new) rail.

Staying in Ronks, Pa....where to eat?

We really wanted to stay in Bird in Hand family inn with relatives but...there wasn%26#39;t any vacancies. So, we%26#39;re staying in Sleep inn and Suites...hopefully, it%26#39;s not a pigsty. Anyway, just wondering if anyone knows any good eating places in the area?? Are the buffets any good or just lots of food with no substance??

Staying in Ronks, Pa....where to eat?

I%26#39;ve never dined at the Good-n-Plenty in Lancaster, but I%26#39;ve heard its pretty good. I stopped in at Miller%26#39;s once and thought the prices were outrageous, so we didn%26#39;t go in. In nearby East Earle, PA is the Shady Maple Smorgasboard that seats 1200 at a time, the quality and variety of the food is very good. This is a popular restaurant as we have had to wait up to a half hour.

Staying in Ronks, Pa....where to eat?

Hi,

My family just returned from vacationing in the Lancaster area and let me warn you that the buffet restaurants may not be your best deal. We only ate at one, Good and Plenty, and they disappointed on several levels. 1) I am a food service director by trade and I recognized several of the ';homemade authentic Amish foods'; as the frozen or canned prepared items available from any food purveyor. 2) Family style means if your party doesn%26#39;t take up a full table of 12 or more, you are seated with another party and you have no control over who your dinner companions may be. I have met interesting people this way and have enjoyed it in the past but at the Good and Plenty I got seated with a family from New Jersey who were doing their utmost to live up to every bad stereotype about New Jersey. 3) Good and Plenty, as I gather most of these sorts of restaurants do, have you pay up front but then tell you that everything is covered except tip. You are not given an opportunity to put the tip on a credit card if you pay that way. I found myself in the situation of having not enough cash to fairly tip our waitress. When I approached the cashier about this, asking if there was an ATM on the premises or if they would allow me to access some cash on my credit or debit card, a gentleman who was either GM or an owner told me that they were not set up for that, the nearest ATM was at the WaWa station( a local convenience store) .9 miles away, that I could be there and back in 5 minutes, turned his back and walked away. Sadly, I stiffed our waitress because I felt that this restaurant was for the sake of not being inconvenienced themselves, asking me to get in my car and drive down the road and back for something they as a business should be doing for its customers. Sadly, this entire experience was very indicative of most of our visit in Lancaster.

Hi,

My family just returned from vacationing in the Lancaster area and let me warn you that the buffet restaurants may not be your best deal. We only ate at one, Good and Plenty, and they disappointed on several levels. 1) I am a food service director by trade and I recognized several of the ';homemade authentic Amish foods'; as the frozen or canned prepared items available from any food purveyor. 2) Family style means if your party doesn%26#39;t take up a full table of 12 or more, you are seated with another party and you have no control over who your dinner companions may be. I have met interesting people this way and have enjoyed it in the past but at the Good and Plenty I got seated with a family from New Jersey who were doing their utmost to live up to every bad stereotype about New Jersey. 3) Good and Plenty, as I gather most of these sorts of restaurants do, have you pay up front but then tell you that everything is covered except tip. You are not given an opportunity to put the tip on a credit card if you pay that way. I found myself in the situation of having not enough cash to fairly tip our waitress. When I approached the cashier about this, asking if there was an ATM on the premises or if they would allow me to access some cash on my credit or debit card, a gentleman who was either GM or an owner told me that they were not set up for that, the nearest ATM was at the WaWa station( a local convenience store) .9 miles away, that I could be there and back in 5 minutes, turned his back and walked away. Sadly, I stiffed our waitress because I felt that this restaurant was for the sake of not being inconvenienced themselves, asking me to get in my car and drive down the road and back for something they as a business should be doing for its customers. Sadly, this entire experience was very indicative of most of our visit in Lancaster.

We like eating at Diener%26#39;s Restaurant close to Ronks on route 30. Ask for directions at the hotel desk. This doesn%26#39;t attract as many tourists as the other mentioned spots, but the cooking, in my opinion, is more authentic/made from scratch. You will not have as many choices as a place like Shady Maple, but there is plenty of good food at their buffet, and actually more than one should eat!

Desserts are also all homemade and delicious. Some of the other buffets have so much food that is overwhelming, and there are typcially long lines waiting for the meal. One downside of Diener%26#39;s:

Their hours are unusual. They close much earlier in the evening than one would expect. Great place for lunch!!

We ate at the Bird in Hand Family Inn restaurant and Miller%26#39;s recently. My husband loved the food at Miller%26#39;s and some at Bird in Hand. Both restaurants are buffet style, however, you can order off the menu. The buffet was a waste for one of my son who barely ate anything. I did enjoy some of the food at both restaurants and the desserts were especially good. Next time, I%26#39;d probably eat elsewhere and try something new.

My family and I live about 10 minutes from the Shady Maple Smorg, and have eaten there numerous times. We enjoy it, however, their prices do vary from night to night. I believe Tuesday is the most expensive night, since it is their seafood night. Most of their food is good, but we don%26#39;t care for their steaks(on steak night) or their pork chops. They also have a huge gift shop.

We just returned from a trip to Lancaster and I have to agree that Diener%26#39;s Restaurant was the best kept secret in town. We had dinner there one night and lunch the next day - the food was good and the prices were very reasonable. They do close at 8pm so you must get there early. We also had a terrific dinner at the Hershey Farm Restaurant on Hartman%26#39;s Bridge Road (Rt 896 south of Rt 30, going towards Strasburg). It%26#39;s right next to the Sight and Sound Theater which we also attended that night. Enjoyed both experiences! Isaac%26#39;s Deli in Strasburg is also nice for lunch or a light, reasonable dinner. Didn%26#39;t try the Smorg%26#39;s or any Family Dining on this trip. We stayed at the Hawthorn Inn %26amp; Suites and would definitely stay there again - the complimentary hot breakfasts with %26#39;make-your-own%26#39; waffles was fun and the coffeee pot is on 24/7. A bit noisy since it%26#39;s surrounded by highways but we knew this in advance and brought a tabletop fan for %26#39;white noise%26#39;.

I visit this area at least once a year and have probably visited over 50 times in my life (been going since I was 3 in 1976). My favorite places to eat in the area in no particular order are:

Bird-in-Hand Family Restaurant (order off the menu, the buffet is OK, but I think it%26#39;s a ripoff. They have incredible chicken corn soup and a side of cucumbers and onions to die for. Their scrapple is the best I%26#39;ve had. Their shoo fly pie is also awesome as is their hot chocolate with whipped cream. My wife is a big fan of their red velvet cake with cream cheese icing.

Dienner%26#39;s

The Family Cupboard on 340 between BIH %26amp; Intercourse (owned by the Dienners)

Jennie%26#39;s Diner just past the intersection of 30 %26amp; 896

Shady Maple in East Earl (I%26#39;m not a huge buffet fan, but I typically go just to go).

I%26#39;m also a fan of Hoss%26#39;s Steak %26amp; Sea (a chain in PA), though the best one I%26#39;ve eaten at is the one in Chambersburg, PA. The one on Lititz Pike is OK, but not as good as Chambersburg.

Hershey Farm (good for a breakfast buffet, don%26#39;t think I%26#39;ve eaten there for anything else).

Strasburg Creamery- awesome ice cream.

Bird-in-Hand Bake Shop on Gibbons Road- best value for PA Dutch baked goods.

We just returned from a trip to Lancaster and surrounding areas. This was probably my 30th visit.

Personally, I%26#39;ve always preferred the Good %26#39;n%26#39; Plenty Restaurant. We%26#39;ve always enjoyed their food, their service has been excellent and anyone who travels SHOULD know that a certain amount of cash may be necessary. Strange as it may seem, not all businesses accept credit cards for tips and some may not accept them at all.

I%26#39;ve gone to Millers several times and my entire family agrees that it has gradually deteriorated to mediocre, especially for the price they charge.

But I%26#39;ve also learned that, other than Amish fare, the best bargain in the entire area is Jennie%26#39;s Diner on Route 30. Plenty of good food, absolutely reasonable prices and excellent service. They also have some of the only decent coffee you may find in the area, so be sure to get a thermos full for the road!

My wife and I have been to millers very nice but pricey, but the prices are listed before you go in so I don%26#39;t understand why some people in other posts were ';surprised'; by the cost or if your kid doesn%26#39;t eat much why take him to a buffet? (For me that’s common sense but common sense isn%26#39;t too common anymore. Hey I don’t like Avocados so I wouldn’t go to Fred’s house of Avocados)

We do prefer Dieners just a couple miles down the road. Run by a local Mennonite family food was PA Dutch and the price was about 25% less than Millers or others $9.95 for lunch as $15 at Millers. We saw many local Mennonite %26amp; Amish eating there. Dieners was recommended to us by the driver from the AAA Buggy Rides in Intercourse (another location in Paradise by Strasburg RR) best buggy rides Lancaster.

The Shady Maple is also very nice HUGE selection, Huge hall for buffet, I do believe at the shady Maple there is a small dinner where you can order off the menu for those who don’t like buffets. Plus there are several stores right on the property of the SM. Service was very good at all three locations

Question about Sandcastle Water Park

We go back to Pittsburgh at least once a year, but we%26#39;ve never been to Sandcastle.

We are looking to come in mid-August and have an 8 and 5-year old.

Is the Waterpark usually really crowded? Will my kids get run over by the crowd/older kids? (We would be with them, but I don%26#39;t want them getting lost in the shuffle.)

We are also doing Kennywood, the Zoo and Natural History Museum. All things the wife and I have done, so we%26#39;re good with those I think.

Thanks for any help.

Question about Sandcastle Water Park

Sandcastle was a highlight of annual August week-long visits my own four kids (when they were 4-12) had in Pittsburgh with my sister and mom. Even almost 20 years later there are great memories they laugh over.

Question about Sandcastle Water Park

Thanks.

So has it been 20 years since you%26#39;ve been there?

It wasn%26#39;t even there when I was a kid, but I%26#39;ve heard about it for years. I can%26#39;t believe it%26#39;s been open that long! Guess I%26#39;m getting old.

Hi! Your kids will have a blast at Sandcastle! They have a kid section there, so I think you will be ok with your kids. It can get pretty crowded but no more then any other normal park. I live about 20 - 30 minutes from Sandcastle and Kennywood. If you have any other questions let me know. When is the last time you have been to Kennywood - it changes every year!

P.S I love your picture! Go Steelers!!!

We haven%26#39;t been to Kennywood in about 5 years. So I%26#39;m really looking forward to the changes.

I%26#39;ve always wanted to visit Sandcastle but many times we are in town after they have closed for the season.

We got a good deal on Kennywood and will keep an eye out for Sandcastle deals. Any local places offer coupons?

We might stop at the Steelers training camp on our way back to New Jersey. I%26#39;ve always wanted to do that too!

Steeler camp is awesome, espically if the kids are into football. All the Steelers are very friendly and will come up and sign autographs and take picts and etc.

As for Kennywood deals - usually if you get your ticket at Giant Eagle, they have them cheaper there.

I have a Sandcastle season pass so I%26#39;m there a couple times a week. It does get crowded in hot weather but you shouldn%26#39;t have a problem with your kids getting run over by the crowd. A lot of people head home around 4:00 so its less crowded later in the day and the lines for the slides aren%26#39;t as long.

For more info about the park see their website at www.Sandcastlewaterpark.com.

You can save 20% booking your tickets online ahead of time if you know when you want to go. Sometimes there are coupons at Giant Eagle stores or on Pepsi cans.

Thanks Pitgirl! I appreciate the tips.

I have a season pass as well to Sandcastle. Get there early if you want a chair, especially if the weather is nice. Also they have a section called Wet Willies that is perfect for the age of your kids. Imagine a jungle gym with water cannons and waterfalls and slides. There is a slide, the Blue Tubaluba, that you can ride double with them. The food is ok, but they have the Famous potato Patch fries. You can bring snacks, they will search your bags at the gate. There is also a wave pool this is very nice and has different types of waves. The lower pool has the bar next to it and can be more of an adult area because of the bar. Hope this helps and Have a great trip!!!

Jenn

East Broad Top Railroad

My husband is a rail buff and we are going to East Broad Top this weekend. Does anyone have a suggestion on where to stay in the area? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Horrible trip to hershey

How can I put it.. today July 26 2008 was the first time me and my family had a horrible trip to what was once our favorite family destination.

it started out with a trip to 3 differnt cvs stores and a quiznos for discount tickets that NONE of them had or even remembered having although on the hershey website it says you can find them there. strike one.

strike two was no matter where we looked and asked we could not find a park map, I remeber they used to give them when you bought your tickets but I guess now you need to spend an hour asking in the shops and get lucky to find one.

strike three was in line for the new Ferinhight roller coster, the line was maybe 2 hours to an hour and half long, no problem since its a new ride and all, but halfway through the line and a group of kids ';invited'; about 10 of thier friends that were on other rides to join them jumping the line. then these kids started jumping the chains cutting infront of more people. I notified a gentleman selling lemonaid in the line that appereared to work for hershey, he said he will notify a security guard. about 10 minutes later a guard came through the line and I stopped her and told her about the problem and a few other guests told her too. she just rolled her eyes at me and went back to hanging out with her friend guard at the top of the ride.

I used to love Hershey but seriously doubt that me and my family will be back, there is always knoebles which has NEVER dissapointed me.

Horrible trip to hershey

It really is sad to hear a story like yours. I%26#39;m sorry you had a bad time on the 26th.

I would really encourage you to contact Hersheypark customer service regarding the attitude of the security guard. It is completly unacceptable!

I have brought issues like this to the attention of Hersheypark management before-usually with acceptable results. The best thing to do is to get the employees name so you can pass it along. I know it doesn%26#39;t help you now, but it could help you or others in the future. Call or email the Park and ask for a manager or director of guest services.

As far as the line to Farenheit, I haven%26#39;t seen the line under an hour since the ride opened. I%26#39;m sure that it didn%26#39;t help that there were 3 concerts in town over the weekend.

Not that it helps now, but to the best of my knowledge, Giant grocery stores are the only outside vender that sells Hersheypark tickets. Some of the places you mentioned had coupons for discounts when you bought tickets at the gate, but I%26#39;ve not known them to sell the tickets themselves.

Horrible trip to hershey

I have to agree that the line jumping at HersheyPark is out of control. I am so tired of two or three people in a party get in line and then close to boarding to the ride they are suddenly then joined by a large group of their family and/or friends who didn%26#39;t want to wait in line. Complaining doesn%26#39;t do any good, I%26#39;ve tried.

HersheyPark%26#39;s customer service is worthless. When I complained about incidents at the water park they acted like they could care less and offered NO resolution.

My kids actually like Knoebels better. Maybe being owned by a family makes Knoebels more aware of the need for good customer service.

multiple tables

Trip Report - Thanks Philly for a Wonderful Time!

Good Morning, Everyone. I returned from my trip to Philadelphia late on Monday night (7/28), and it is time to let the cat out of the bag! Thanks to all the locals who gave me some great advice, which I will list and try to do justice to!

I arrived early on Saturday morning, took the SEPTA from the airport to downtown ($7.00 CASH ONLY on the train), and %26#39;toured%26#39; to get my bearings by getting on the Philly Phlash. At $5.00 for an all day ticket or $2.00 for an unlimited loop, this was a great deal. It runs about every 10 minutes, so just stand under the sign. The drivers are very knowledgeable (I heard them answer other folks%26#39; questions) and friendly.

Philly is working hard to bring tourism there, so go and have a good time.

I love the architecture of the city. Historical intermixed with new glass and steel. I walked most of the time. The city was very easy to get acquainted with and oriented. I had printed several sections of the map on www.gophila.com before I left so I would have a good idea of where I was before I got there.

I stayed at the Westin Downtown on 17th between Market and Chestnut. It was fabulous. A federal style building that used to be the Ritz-Carlton, worth every penny. I had room service one morning for breakfast as a treat. The food and coffee were delicious! The Philly Phlash stop is just about right in front of the hotel, it is two blocks from Rittenhouse Square, and LOADS of shopping and food right there.

I walked through the outside of City Hall, there are lots of sculptures and statues. Also, part of the Convention Center used to be Reading Terminal, which has awesome architecture. I went to the Reading Terminal Market and bought the sweetest cherries for $1 and grapes, along with locally grown tomatoes, Amish Cheddar cheese, and some salad greens. I also bought some tea biscuits from Termini Brothers, and had coffee from Old City Coffee. Everything was tasty and delicious!

My next stop was Old Navy. There is no tax on clothing in Philly, so I bought a few things for the weekend.

After all the touring, I was getting a little hungry, but wanted to see where Chris%26#39; Jazz Club was so I wouldn%26#39;t get lost that night. On my way I saw a sign -- Lunch Special: Cheesesteak and a Pint for $6.00 -- so I knew I had to go in! It was Oscar%26#39;s Tavern on Samsun between 15th and 16th. OH MY GOSH. The best cheesesteak I ever ate....they are made to order, and the meat was so fresh and delicious, and the bun was crisp on the outside and soft on the inside. I found out a lot about cheesesteak hoagies -- if you have a cheesesteak in South Philly that you will get it with Cheez Whiz, and Oscars will make it for you that way if you like (which I didn%26#39;t). The sandwich is large enough to share with someone, but I had to force myself to eat the whole thing, as I was alone. I also asked them to try a beer actually brewed locally, so I had a Yuengling Lager. It is full bodied and darker than regular beer, but not dark like Guiness. It was delicious and I had two pints!

When I left Oscar%26#39;s I went to the Phillies game. I had such a great time. This must have been the best game in baseball this season. It was a beautiful, sunny day, a great game, and the Phillies won. I loved taking the subway with all the fans. Here in south Florida when you go to a game you drive, so you are by yourself. When you take the train it is fun to be with all the people who you know are going to the same place. I loved it. Also, when you are walking from the train to the ball park, the views of the City are incredible.

Sunday I went and toured Rittenhouse Square. A very pretty (and much smaller) park than I thought it would be, but I enjoyed people watching. There is lots of shopping and tons of places to eat everywhere in Philly. Then, I walked through the %26#39;arts%26#39; section. I checked out some places to live. Prices are pretty reasonable in my estimation, and very varied.

Sunday afternoon there was a huge lightning storm so I headed into the Fox and Hound to watch all of the baseball games. I tried their brew, the Red Fox. It had great body, but it finished a little bitter, which I didn%26#39;t like. I watched 4 baseball games at one time (they even put on the Marlins for me). The Phillies and the Marlins both lost that day, darn it!

I ended Sunday with dinner at La Viola (thanks Mikepa322) - on 16th, South of Chestnut. It is an Italian BYOB. I have to say with all the bars in Philly, I couldn%26#39;t find a liquor store to buy some wine, but I didn%26#39;t need it anyway. The place is a tiny neighborhood place, very elegant, and the menu was incredible. I had the Cream of Asparagus soup (the special of the day - don%26#39;t miss it if you happen to get this choice) and the Gnocci. I have to say that the Gnocci was the best I ever had. Tender and airy. Better than what I had in Italy, even. Dinner for one was $16.00. Undeniably a great place.

Monday was my historical America day. I had pre-booked my Independence Hall ticket online because I knew I didn%26#39;t want to be at the Visitor Center at 8:30am. I had breakfast at the Down Home Diner in the Reading Terminal Market. The corned beef hash is home made there, and it was delicious -- the place has a whole farm theme -- very cute, and nothing like a NYC diner. Then jumped on the Philly Phlash down to Old City. Standing in the same room where all of the signers of the Declaration of Independence pledged their life, their money, and their honor to start our great country was truly an amazing feeling. I was overwhelmed with pride and love for my country. I toured the buildings at Independence Hall, and tried to imagine being back in that time.

I walked Old City and went to Bookbinders for lunch. It is just down the street (2nd and Walnut) from the City Tavern. The place had lots of memorabilia from the golden age of Hollywood, and reminded me a little bit of Sardi%26#39;s in NYC. The music was all Frank Sinatra, Perry Como, Rosemary Clooney. Linens at lunch, very elegant. Old-World elegance in the President%26#39;s Room. The walls were lined with pictures of all of the presidents of the United States and a little %26#39;blurb%26#39; of their presidency. I had the Tomato Bisque and the Crabcake. The Bisque was to die for, I didn%26#39;t really like the crabcake all that well, but it was good. I also had the President%26#39;s Room Salad. A chopped salad with crumbled Bleu Cheese and a light vinaigrette.

I got back on the Philly Phlash and stayed on it for two loops. I realized that I was going to be sad to leave this city, and I was going home with a whole long list of things to do when I return (I hope it is soon). I finally got off the Phlash at the East Market Terminal to catch the SEPTA to the airport and home.

Thanks to:

mikepa322

yoletsgo

Lynn3

Rocknroll52

DelphianV

For all the great advice.

I hope to see you all again soon!

Lisa

Coral Springs, Florida

Trip Report - Thanks Philly for a Wonderful Time!

Great report Lisa! I was in Philadelphia last Friday and did a few of the same things that you did. It%26#39;s a great city to visit!

My one disappointment was the Philly Phlash bus. The bus driver not only didn%26#39;t talk, he also didn%26#39;t announce the stops so you kind of had to guess where you were. We were his last round of the day though, and it was a Friday so he was probably just ready to go home. :(

Trip Report - Thanks Philly for a Wonderful Time!

Thanks for the terrific report. I love that you%26#39;re willing to travel alone and obviously have a good time doing it. Maybe your report will encourage others to do the same.

You are most welcome. I hope your next visit is as enjoyable.

Lynn

day cream

Concert Candem + Hotel + Day tour Philly

Hi...

i am going to Philadelphia from NYC with a friend, we are both on the late 20%26#39;s.

We were planning to arrive to Philadelphia early morning, leave the luggage in a hotel, tour the city and by 6pm we have a concert in Susquehanna Bank Center - Camden.

Questions:

1 - From NYC to Philadelphia, should we take the train or bus?

2 - Which city area should we look for an hotel? Do you have any hotel suggestion not ';too budget'; and off course, not the Four Seasons

3 - Considering that is a weekday, how should we go from Philadelphia to Candem, what time should we leave the city to be there by 6pm

4 - I assume the concert should end by 10/11pm, how should we return to the city?

5 - What are yours 5 ';do not miss'; places/monuments/spots in Philly?

Thank you very much for your help!!

Concert Candem + Hotel + Day tour Philly

1. Bus is cheaper, but the train is better, and not that much more. Take NJT from Penn Station to trenton, and transfer to the SEPTA R7 line (usually, but not always, right across the same platform). Take the train to one of the three downtown stops (depends on what hotel you wind up at).

2. Any downtown hotel is good, except for the Best Western at 22nd %26amp; Benj Franklin Parkway). The better locations for your plans are in the Old City/Penn%26#39;s Landing area. Check hout Society Hill Sheraton and Holiday Inn 400 Arch Street.

3. %26amp;4. Depends on whether the ferry is running and its schedule or if you will need to take PATCO/RiverLink. Either ride is short. You will need to take RiverLink/PATCO to get back. PATCO stations in town are at 8th %26amp; Market, 12th %26amp; Locust, and 15th %26amp; Locust. 8th %26amp; Market is closest to aforementioned hotels, but ould still be about a 5-10 block walk. You could transfer to the Market-Frankford El at 8th %26amp; Market and take that to 5th %26amp; Market or 2nd %26amp; Market if you are staying in the Old City/Penn%26#39;s Landing area.

5. Independence Hall, Liberty Bell, Franklin Court (all free, but tix needed for Ind Hall), National Constitution Center, Reading Terminal Market. But really, it depends on what you like. There is more to do here than you would think.

Concert Candem + Hotel + Day tour Philly

RiverLink and PATCO is the same, right? is that a train?

Thank you very much for all your info

Sorry, it%26#39;s called RiverLine. RivertLine and PATCO are two different lines (both run by PATCO, however), with separate fares. RiverLink is the ferry. This link may help: http://www.ridepatco.org/links.html

Regarding your train from NY to Philly, I would also consider taking Amtrak which does not require a change of trains in Trenton. It is more expensive, but consider the convenience factor.

www.amtrak.com

Reading Terminal Market - Where for lunch?

What is a good choice for a late lunch around this area on Monday of next week? A place with excellent food, which includes seafood, and where crowds do not result in long waits.

Reading Terminal Market - Where for lunch?

Do you mean a restaurant nearby Reading Terminal, or do you want to know which places to eat in the Reading Terminal itself?

Reading Terminal Market - Where for lunch?

I guess I said ';around this area';, but WITHIN is good, too.

Sorry I was just confused about how to answer your question because the Reading Terminal Market is a very popular lunch destination in itself, but it is set up more like food stands than restaurants. Some of the food stands have their own seating and you can also take your food to a central seating area. If you are going for a late lunch it should not be crowded.

As far as favorite places, you%26#39;ll get lots of opinions, but it really depends what type of food you like. 12th Street Cantina is a good place for Mexican. Lots of people rave about the roast beef sandwich at DiNics though I haven%26#39;t had it personally. Here%26#39;s a link to the ';restaurant'; directory.

readingterminalmarket.org/merchants/category…

There is also a new sports bar there called The Field House

As rocknroll52 says, RTM is a popular lunch destination with dozens of options. The Thai place (can%26#39;t remember the name) is a popular choice. The Pa Dutch places aren%26#39;t open on Monday, by the way.

If you%26#39;re in the mood for something with table service, however, you%26#39;ll have to look elsewhere. Chinatown is close. Vietnam is my favorite there.

http://www.eatatvietnam.com/welcome.cfm

If your willing to walk a few blocks, Estia is excellent. http://www.estiarestaurant.com/home.htm

Thanks to both. I like the idea of the Greek place for lunch. Or, 12th St. sounds universally approved.

Although it is a chain, Maggiano%26#39;s is right down the street, Nest to the parking deck. big portions, moderately priced, good food. Italian with seafood choices.

So many good options! The Red Curry Chicken is great at the Thai place (just look for the long line) and the roast pork and roast beef at DiNics are amazing. If you%26#39;re into Hoagies, Spataros (I%26#39;m totally botching that name and spelling but it%26#39;s close) is the best Italian hoagie around. Have a canoli at Termini%26#39;s for dessert!

Halloween in Pittsburgh - GOOD?

Hi,

I%26#39;m from Detroit and visited Pittsburgh for the first time last year and think the place rocks. I am looking to get a group together and do a cheap destination HALLOWEEN this year, and was wondering if Pittsburgh can provide a good time.

Are there costume bar crawls?

Ghost tours?

Big costume ball that isn%26#39;t hosted by the pop radio station?

Anything else that involves Halloween and fun, do tell.

Thanks alot, D

Halloween in Pittsburgh - GOOD?

Kennywood amusement park does halloween nights weekends that are a lot of fi=un. I beleve they set up 4 haunted houses and turn off all the lights in the park so evey ride is in the dak. Only prob is a TON of teenagers go on Saturday nights and the lines can be extremely long. I prefer Ceder Point%26#39;s Halloweekends.

Halloween in Pittsburgh - GOOD?

There is also the ';run like hell'; race where you run a 5k at night in your halloween costume. Lots of alcohol is consumed, I%26#39;ve heard it%26#39;s very fun and at the end they have a costume contest.

I%26#39;m sure the Southside has lots of activity on halloween night as well.

Best rates for Pocono Palace???

Does anyone know how / where I can get the best rates for a stay at the Ceasar%26#39;s Pocono Palace resort?

healthy hair

pillows

Could someone help me get an e-mail address for seneca alleghany, in salamanca, new york--stayed at the casion a few times and just LOVED their bed pillows--I was going to see if I could purchase some---thanks OAKEY

pillows

Seneca Allegany Casino %26amp; Hotel

777 Seneca Allegany Boulevard

Salamanca, NY 14779

1-888-913-3377

info@senecaalleganycasino.com

Restaurants in Valley Forge/Berwyn area

Any suggestions for restaurants in the Berwyn/Valley Forge area? Good American or Italian fare at reasonable prices.

Restaurants in Valley Forge/Berwyn area

You may want to try Ristorante Verona which is located in Frazer or Fellini Cafe Trattoria which is located in Berwyn. I have not been to the Fellini in Berwyn but the owner has the same restaurant in another location and it is great. Both are reasonably priced and Verona feels romantic and has a European feel inside.

Restaurants in Valley Forge/Berwyn area

Try Anthony%26#39;s in Malvern.

Thanks, all!

Valley Forge area would still include King of Prussia, so you have all the mall restaurants. Rock Bottom, Maggiano%26#39;s, Cheesecake Factory, etc etc

Aside from that, there is:

Bertucci%26#39;s in Strafford

Mckenzie%26#39;s in Frazer

The Desmond

Nector in Berwyn

Meredith%26#39;s in Berwyn BYO

Basil%26#39;s in Paoli

Theresa%26#39;s Trattoria in Wayne

Classic Diner in Malvern

Christopher%26#39;s in Wayne

They all fit the bill nicely I%26#39;d say.

day cream

single woman short stay

Hi, I am 50 year old woman and am wanting to see the Mutter Museum. Can you recommend a hotel close to it that would be a safe walk for me? Or, should I rent a car?

Thanks!

single woman short stay

The Sofitel, Westin and Crowne Plaza are all in close walking distance and safe neighborhoods. No safety issues with the walk to Mutter.

single woman short stay

Wow! Thanks for the quick reply. I can%26#39;t wait to see the museum.

And unless you are heading out of the city, there is no need to rent a car in Philly...

Field pass for Monday night game against the Ravens?

My girlfriend and I are coming to see the Steelers-Ravens Monday night game at Heinz field. She%26#39;s a huge Steelers fan and I%26#39;m wondering if anyone has any tips/connections to help in trying to get a field pass for pregame access to the field during warmups? I know this is a long shot, but thought I%26#39;d try to see if I can surprise her.

Thanks for any help! We%26#39;re looking forward to coming again to visit your great city!

Field pass for Monday night game against the Ravens?

I%26#39;m guessing that this type of pass is restricted to media, security/concessions, and ';friends';. I used to work at a sports stadium a while back and it was pretty secure. Not the type of thing you bid for on Ebay.

seg tours

Has anyone done these %26amp; which tour is the 2.5 hour tour worth it?

graphics animation

Alexander Inn

Hi,

We have reservations for the Alexander Inn. I just read the last posting and it didn%26#39;t sound all that

postive. This hotel still comes up #2 on recommended hotels.

Any advice?

Thanks.

Alexander Inn

I would say that whether you%26#39;re happy with it will depend on what is important to you. The Alexander Inn does not have the polish you would expect to find in a 4* hotel. However, the rates are far below that level also. If you want the slickness of the chains, it%26#39;s not for you. Everybody seems to appreciate the warmth of the staff, the reasonable rates and the convenient location, so if those things are most important, it%26#39;s a good choice.

The other issue the reviewer had problems with is its large gay clientele. It is located in Philadelphia%26#39;s gayborhood and has both gay and straight guests. If you are uncomfortable with gay people, you would do better to choose a hotel in another location.

Alexander Inn

Thanks for the reply.

It sounds like we made a good choice and we are looking forward to it.

Non Chain Motels

I will be attending a conference on August7-9 in Hershey and am looking for a relatively inexpensive place to stay :)

Does anyone have any ideas about some of the non-chain hotels -- Milton Hotel; Spinners Motel, etc. The room does not need to be anything fancy, just clean comfy beds. Thoughts please?

Non Chain Motels

Cocoa Motel is at the corner of 743 and 322, but they%26#39;re doing road construction in that area that could be annoying.

Non Chain Motels

We have stayed at the Milton Motel. It is clean, basic, but the beds are rather firm. If that%26#39;s not your liking, you might want to look elsewhere. I have heard the White Rose Motel is nice. It gets great reviews on this site. I have never stayed there, but it looks nice from the outside.

Stay away from Spinners Inn Motel. My husband, grown son %26amp; I stayed there about 2 years ago. The room smelled of MOLD and it wasn%26#39;t very clean. When we returned from our event at about 10:00 pm my son (who was 20 years old at the time) opened the locked door without a key. I couldn%26#39;t believe it so I locked the door and sure enough he was able to open it just by turning the knob. They have a restaurant on site and the parking lot was just about full when we returned that evening and in the morning the parking lot was just about empty, they apparently do not have enough parking for there hotel guests and the restaurant patrons.

I would recommend you stay at a Hampton Inn or a Courtyard - they have proven to be consistently clean and accommodating for us. The Hershey Lodge %26amp; Hershey Hotel would both probably be very nice although also expensive. The granite counter in the bar of the Hershey Hotel was installed by our handyman/contractor who installed our new kitchen, as well as a lot of other jobs around our house. He does excellent work, so I am sure the bar counter is beautiful. Also, Harrisburg is very close to Hershey and I have stayed at the Courtyard by Marriot Hershey/Harrisburg. This was a very nice hotel and a nice location, but it is a 20 minute drive to Hershey.

I would look into the Simmons Hotel. I%26#39;ve only ever heard good things about it and its owners. Lots of locals stay there when they are relocating, moving from one house to another, or renovating. If your conference is being held at either the Hershey Lodge or the Hershey Hotel, you won%26#39;t be far...but you will need a car. There is no public transportation (or convienent taxis) in Hershey.

Before opting for a no-name hotel, you should consider bidding on Priceline. Here are links to recent winning bids in Priceline Harrisburg zones:

http://biddingfortravel.yuku.com/search/text/forum/80?q=Harrisburg%26amp;submit=Search+Forum

From these reposts, it appears that a 3* hotel probably would be available in a bid range of from $50 to $65, depending on if the General Assembly of Crooks and Convicts is in session. The winning bid range for 2* hotels seems to be from $35 to $43 per night . For 2.5* hotels, I’d start bidding at about $40 per night.

Here are links for some known Priceline participating hotels and their star-quality ratings:

…yuku.com/topic/71760/t/EASTERN-PENNSYLVANIA…

I stayed at the Spinners Motel last weekend. It is a smaller, older motel. I will give you the postives and negatives. First, since we were in town attending a concert, the rates were skyhigh! Way more than the place was worth in my opinion.It was clean, 2 nice size queen beds, microwave and refig. in the room, small outdoor enclosed pool, free continental breakfast, game room, nice restaurant and bar on premises and the best part for me was the proximity! It was only 5-10 min. (traffic) from the major attractions. You could tell it was older due to some wear and tear in the curtains and carpet. The people working the desk were very nice and helpful. I would stay there again if the rates were much better. I would suggest the small restaurant next door for breakfast called the Hershey Pantry.

It would be worth going there just for the huge, delicious cinnamon bun!

Have fun!